The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore

chapter eighteen of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

Harry laments the loss of his wand and sits, furious with Dumbledore for the desperation that led them to Godric’s Hollow. He and Hermione then read in Rita Skeeter’s book about Dumbledore’s childhood friendship with Grindelwald – and their shared dream of conquering Muggles by force. And as his image of Dumbledore crumbles around him, Harry simply wishes that he could believe his old headmaster had cared about him.
 

The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore, by Hannah-Dora

“You’re still really angry at me, aren’t you?” said Hermione; he looked up to see fresh tears leaking out of her eyes, and knew that his anger must have shown in his face. “No,” he said quietly. “No, Hermione… you were incredible. I’d be dead if you hadn’t been there….”


 

Albus Dumbledore Book Cover, by Caladan

“Harry, you wanted to know who that man in the picture was. Well… I’ve got the book.” Timidly she pushed it onto his lap….

(by Caladan)


 

Grindelwald & Dumbledore, by Caladan

He tried to return her watery smile, then turned his attention to the book…. He came across [the photograph] he sought almost at once, the young Dumbledore and his handsome companion, roaring with laughter at some long-forgotten joke. He dropped his eyes to the caption.

Albus Dumbledore, shortly after his mother’s death,
with his friend Gellert Grindelwald.

(by Caladan)


 

Young Albus, by FizzingWhizbees

“And how did the mysterious Ariana die? Was she the inadvertent victim of some Dark rite? Did she stumble across something she ought not to have done, as the two young men sat practicing for their attempt at glory and domination? Is it possible that Ariana Dumbledore was the first person to die ‘for the greater good?’”


 

Harry, by Sarapsys

“I thought you’d say that,” said Harry. He did not want to let his anger spill out at her, but it was hard to keep his voice steady. “I thought you’d say ‘they were young.’ They were the same age as we are now. And here we are, risking our lives to fight the Dark Arts, and there he was, in a huddle with his new best friend, plotting their rise to power over the Muggles.”


 

Time of No Reply, by Hannah-Dora

“Look what he asked from me, Hermione! Risk your life, Harry! And again! And again! And don’t expect me to explain everything, just trust me blindly, trust that I know what I’m doing, trust me even though I don’t trust you! Never the whole truth! Never!”


 

Tea, by Pen-umbra

Hermione… hesitated, but recognized the dismissal. She picked up the book and then walked back past him into the tent, but as she did so, she brushed the top of his head lightly with her hand.


 

Mountainous Ponderings, by Beeeb

[Harry] closed his eyes at her touch, and hated himself for wishing that what she said was true: that Dumbledore had really cared.

(by Beeeb)


 

about the chapter

 

The Wizarding World

It kind of blows my mind sometimes that Rita Skeeter hasn’t been prosecuted for her reporting methods. Her note to Bathilda – “You said everything, even if you don’t remember it” – and her earlier open admission to the Daily Prophet that she had to use “methods” to “extract” information from the poor old woman are just enough to make my blood boil. But then, she’s not much of an exaggeration (if any) of many real-world reporters, either. It’s hard not to want to just lock her in a room somewhere with Umbridge and let them have at each other for a couple of decades. But then, free speech and a free press do have their benefits, too….
 

Full Circle

The first time Harry had a conversation with Dumbledore, Dumbledore lied to him (about what he saw in the Mirror of Erised). The second time they talked, Dumbledore strongly implied that he would never lie to Harry (“I shall not, of course, lie”). And throughout the six years Harry spent at Hogwarts, Dumbledore was consistently secretive with him (and with everyone, for that matter), divulging information only at specifically chosen times, disappearing for long stretches, and making it clear that he played his cards close to his chest. Even during Harry’s final year, when he was getting regular lessons from Dumbledore, the headmaster never fully explained what the lessons were about; never told Harry when to expect the next one; and always seemed rather mysterious about the whole thing. So now that Harry knows that Dumbledore has such crazy secrets from his distant past, it’s no wonder that he sits pondering what else Dumbledore might be hiding. And for that matter, it’s no wonder the rest of the wizarding world has wondered for years what Dumbledore was hiding from them about Harry. The truth – or some of it, anyway – is finally coming to light, and it’s hard not to wonder what else we might be learning before the book is through.
 

The Final Word

“I love Dumbledore more for his frailties but it was important I think to show, and it was part of Harry becoming a man to realize that even this man he revered is alone, had his frailties, had made his mistakes. After all, Dumbledore is, although he seems to be so benign for six books, he’s quite a Machiavellian figure really. He’s pulling a lot of strings. Harry has been a puppet to an extent.”–J.K. Rowling, October 2007
 


36 Responses to “The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore”

  1. Oh I would love to see Skeeter go against Umbridge!

    Harry would have been at a complete and utter loss without Hermione. If you think about it, it was actually down to Voldemort that they became friends. If Voldemort hadn’t been in control of Quirrell, Quirrell wouldn’t have let the troll in. If he hadn’t let the troll in, Harry and Ron wouldn’t have had to save Hermione from it. If they hadn’t saved her they probably wouldn’t have become such close friends. Yet another reason Voldemort is to blame for his own downfall.

  2. Love the pictures of Dumbledore where we are reminded that he used to be a redhead. I always think of him as white-haired, which of course, he wasn’t always.

  3. I was’nt expecting so many pictures on this chapter, that was a surprise ;)
    One other thing about Rita Skeeter’s book was the chapter about Dumbledore and Harry, I would have liked if Harry had a peek at that bit of work…

  4. Who is super-exited for the last few chapters?
    When do you think they will come out? If you have a guess, tell me!

  5. @Anna1 Me too. I always forget that once Dumbledore’s hair wasn’t white and/or extremely long.

    @Amy I wonder if anyone has ever wrote a fanfiction like that. With the mass amount of Harry Potter fanfiction, I’d say it’s a safe bet you could find one.

  6. Lovely artwork!!

  7. Jose, it’s safe to say that that section of Skeeter’s book contained material that JKR couldn’t include in a children’s novel. I think it’s safe to say that Skeeter not only revealed Dumbledore’s homosexual leanings, but wrote gleefully that he had been grooming Harry for a paedophilic relationship.

    Harry must have KNOWN, instinctively, that this was not true. His relationship with Dumbledore was mentor/pupil and grandfather/grandson. But of course Skeeter’s writings ignited the doubts. Of course this information rocked his image of Dumbledore.

    That’s before we even begin to approach the more important issue of whether Dumbledore had ever loved Harry. It’s easy for the reader to conclude, yes, Dumbledore always lived in perpetual hope that something would turn up to save Harry’s life, and he knew for two years before he died that Voldemort would never be able to kill Harry. But we also know that even if nothing ever had turned up, Dumbledore would still have groomed Harry for the messianic role and sacrificed him in the same way that he had been willing to sacrifice his own self. Everything must be sacrificed in order to destroy Voldemort.

    Dumbledore has given Harry almost no information, yet he expects him to follow blindly Dumbledore’s unspecified plan to save the world. And even Rita Skeeter’s lies are usually based on some tiny incident that was more or less true. It is not surprising that Harry wonders whether his whole relationship with Dumbledore was a lie and whether it’s all leading to a place that won’t be worth going. (Five years ago, Ernie Macmillan raised the question of whether Voldemort’s enemies are necessarily good people or just rival Dark Lords.)

    And it all happens at a time when Ron is not there. Ron’s absence (the doubts about his love) are a very painful backdrop to the whole problem.

  8. About time Harry cracked…
    Most would have done sooner.

  9. About Rita’s book… Rowling has said sexual orientation doesn’t excite much controversy in the Wizarding world. Their prejudices lie around ‘blood status’ instead. I sort of assumed Dumbledore’s sexual orientation would be a known fact already in the Wizarding world, and that it wouldn’t excite much controversy… no one would really care. Therefore, not much of a scoop.

    I agree Rita would twist Dumbledore and Harry’s relationship somehow, though. Whether by implying something sexual and pedophilic, as you say, or by suggesting that Dumbledore was still working for the dark arts and was using Harry for some horrible purpose. Either Harry would have been a helpless victim or he would have had some hand in Dumbledore’s death, I expect! I don’t blame Harry for not reading that bit. :p

  10. I’m curious how other people felt about Harry’s wand being broken. For me, that was the darkest hour of the book. I just couldn’t believe it… for the first time, I thought Harry might fail.I’d always assumed it would play an integral part of the final battle… and Harry just didn’t feel right without it!

    It really shook me up. What did other people think of it?

  11. @hazelwillow I completely agree, based on JKR’s quote, that Dumbledore being gay is not really a big deal in the wizarding world, and that he was actually a Dark wizard (or at least one that hated Muggles) would excite a lot more controversy.
    And about the wand thing, I remember reading that and wanting to put the book down. That was a moment where the whole thing felt really hopeless, even more so maybe that Ron’s leaving. There are many times where additional failures make everything worse (end of HBP: Dumbledore died, and the locket wasn’t even a Horcrux – if it was, it would have been worth it. Here, it would have been worth it if they killed Nagini, but not only did they fail to do that, but Harry’s wand broke as well). Harry’s wand was always a symbol of hope, kind of like Dumbledore & Fawkes himself – it saved him in the graveyard and the beginning of DH, thanks to the twin cores. Now Harry no longer has that protection. I couldn’t see how Harry was going to go on with it being broken, with his failure using the blackthorn wand. I was really happy when the book ended with Harry repairing his wand :)

  12. I too was ready to close the book at this point, but it was Hermionie’s faith in Dumbledore that kept me going. It is funny how Ron, the pure blood was the first to despair and then Harry the half blood, was ready to give it up, but Hermionie the muggleborn hangs on.

    At one point of the chapter when it was Harry’s turn to wear the horcrux, he visualizes both Ron and Hermionie leaving him. Hermionie shows herself to be a very key character in the destruction of Voldemort. There is a saying that behind every great man there is a great woman. Hermionie clearly is in love with Ron, but she seems to know her place in the mission and will not walk out on Harry.

  13. At this point of the story Harry’s wand is only a symbol of hope. Voldemort already knows is origins and powers and even if we don’t know yet what he is up to, there’s no way he’s going to give Harry the advantage of using a wand that shares the same core. But Harry did’nt figured that yet, so the loss is devastating.

  14. This is one of the most powerful chapters in the series, IMO. First, we finally get to see Dumbledore’s true colors, and Harry finally begins seeing Dumbledore for what he was – a manipulative, secretive figure who expects people to blindly follow him.
    One of my favorite lines here is when Harry snaps that Dumbledore was not “young, and therefore excused,” because this is something we keep coming back to in these books. Sirius is forgiven for attempting to murder Snape…because he was young and stupid. Hermione wants to forgive Dumbledore for plottign world domination…when he was young and stupid. And yet here are Harry and Hermione, in an absolute living hell, risking their lives time and time again to fight the Dark Arts and to protect people. By seventeen years old, teenagers are perfectly sentient human beings and should be held accountable for their actions.

  15. Honestly, Dumbledore, gay? Really? I just can’t picture that. To me, Dumbledore is a solitary character. Just because he and Grindelwald were best buds, do we have to assume they were gay? Just because he was a mentor to Harry, do we have to assume he was gay? Maybe we’re taking Rita skeeter a little too seriously. Or maybe, we’ve gotten the Harry Potter series mixed up with Harry Potter Puppet Pals.

  16. In book 5, when Harry sees Snape’s memory of his father and wants desperately to be reassured that his father was a good guy after all, Sirius and Lupin try to excuse James by saying that James was only 15. Harry’s reply is “I’m fifteen!” Here, Hermione is trying to excuse the actions of a 17-year-old by pointing out that he was young, and Harry points out that he and Hermione are also 17. He’s certainly had to grow up fast.

  17. JK told everyone in an interview that DD was gay. I do not have the exact quote, but it can be looked up.

  18. Jose Lopez: I don’t think Voldemort had any way of really overrunning the twin cores problem. He tried getting another wand (Lucius’), but the battle of the Seven Potters showed that the twin cores react to each other but also each other’s owners. At least that’s how I explained Harry’s wand acting of its own accord at that point: as long as Voldemort was the owner of the other Fawkes wand, Harry’s wand was always gonna react to attacks from him, no matter which wand he actually used.
    So the only two ways Voldemort might have outsmarted the issue would be either gaining full ownership of the Elder Wand or getting rid of Harry’s wand. Basically, from now ’till after Malfoy Manor, Harry is in a very, very bad place and not only figuratively.

    Bia Q.: we don’t assume Dumbledore’s gay and I don’t think many people had given the issue much thought before J.K. told us herself. It’s her character, so I guess she can give him one sexual orientation or the other. Of course, that doesn’t tell us anything about his actual romantic/sexual life (in fact, he’s always given the impression of having lived a very solitary life, after the Grindelwald debacle), nor should it suggest anything at all going on between Harry and him other than a pupil/mentor relationship: Dumbledore being gay has NOTHING to do with Harry.

    Anyway, I agree with hazelwillow and Leah on Rita’s take on the Harry/Dumbledore relationship: her assertions probably had the Dark Arts and Voldemort as a focus… Even though the interview she gives the Prophet in
    July might suggest something dirtier…

  19. Losing his wand was like losing another friend, and protector. I really feel terrible every time I come to that part. He has all ready lost so much.

  20. Wouldn’t Rita’s take on Dumbledore’s sexuality have been to make it dirty, whether most people had prejudices about it or not? That woman could make the Easter Bunny into a peeping tom.

    That said, my take on it is that when Grindelwald ducked and dived after Ariana’s death, for which he was at least partly responsible, the effect on Dumbledore was so profound – such bitter disappointment – that he avoided sexual love for the rest of his long life, to keep himself safe from further hurt. And the same would have happened if it had been Fraulein Gertrud Grindelwald … and if any adult wanted sex with children, then the career of a teacher would be perfect and often is; but love is perfectly possible without any sexual element or even reciprocity. Except through the eyes of a tabloid journalist.

    And, incidentally, Dumbledore wasn’t very good at love, was he? Not on the best terms with his own brother. Unable to open up and tell the truth, even to someone (like Harry, but also like McGonagall) he could trust and even when opening up would actually have been tactically sensible. A very lonely man. His sad solitude on the “King’s Cross station” is very telling: quite literally and very figuratively, there he is while life passes him by. Harry can choose to go on or go back, but it seems that he can’t, or not yet.

  21. @Bia Q, here is a link to an October 2007 article printed by BBC News that covers Rowling’s aforementioned revelation about AB at Carnegie Hall:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7053982.stm

    And here’s an excerpt from the interview: “‘Dumbledore is gay,’ [Rowling] said, adding he was smitten with rival Gellert Grindelwald, who he beat in a battle between good and bad wizards long ago.”

  22. I don’t buy that DD was gay. To me, the relationship portrayed in the book was one of brothers; not lovers. We have examples of other pairs like them such as James and Sirius, Dean and Seamus as well as Harry and Ron. DD had such a disappointing relationship with his brother Aberforth and with the other problems with the family it is no wonder DD formed a close relationship with Grindewald.

  23. @GinGin4. Why don’t you buy that Dumbledore was gay? That is a fact, not a theory. J.K. announced that he is gay.

    Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?
     
    My truthful answer to you… I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] … Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that’s how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair… [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, “Dumbledore’s gay!” [laughter] If I’d known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!”

  24. GinGin4 – I understand why it is hard to believe DD is gay, we don’t see many clues in the books; but I think we have to go with what JK tells us – they are her characters after all, and if she says he was gay, well, he was.

  25. There are a couple of things about Rowling’s ‘outing’ Dumbledore that have always struck me as interesting.

    One is that lots of people are upset with her for the way she did it. Out of thousands and thousands of pages in the books, it was never explicitly mentioned; but then in an interview suddenly everything is spun around. In general I’m not a huge fan of the way she does this; I like her interviews for clarifying what she was thinking, but I can see where she ‘oversteps’ occasionally. From many readers’ perspectives, the facts are only what appear in the books; I would say that it is a “fact, not a theory” that Rowling always thought of Dumbledore as being gay, but I don’t know that I believe that should necessarily make him so, period, end of story. The books are complete, so *they* are the story now, and in some ways Rowling’s ideas of what happens outside the pages are in the same category as my theories. More valid, of course, but in the same ballpark. Another example of this is the characters’ lives after Hogwarts – Rowling tells us what careers they had, but aside from Neville, none are mentioned in the book, so from my perspective there can still be other possibilities.

    That said, I saw the possibility of Dumbledore being gay written into the books. It’s subtle, but I think it’s there. Think of this quote from King’s Cross:

    “And then, of course, he came…. Grindelwald. You cannot imagine how his ideas caught me, Harry, inflamed me…. Did I know, in my heart of hearts, what Gellert Grindelwald was? I think I did, but I closed my eyes. If the plans we were making came to fruition, all my dreams would come true.”
    (cut)
    “Well, Grindelwald fled, as anyone but I could have predicted.”

    That, to me, doesn’t describe a simple friendship of two boys who only met a month before. Obviously you can choose to read it either way – and plenty of people are frustrated with Rowling for not making it clearer if she intended it to be more than a friendship (although from the story’s perspective, it’s fairly superfluous). But I think her explanation is a logical one. And it seems she did intend it that way; here from another interview:

    “How relevant is that to the books? Well, it’s only relevant if you considered that his feelings for Grindelwald, as revealed in the 7th book, were an infatuation rather than a straight-forward friendship. That’s how I think– In fact, I know that some, perhaps sensitive, adult readers had already seen that. I don’t think that came as a big surprise to some adult readers. I think a child would see a friendship, and a very devoted friendship. But these things also occur. So I– How relevant is it? Well to me, it was only relevant in as much as Dumbledore, who was the great defender of Love, and who sincerely believed that Love was the greatest, most powerful, force in the universe, was himself made a fool of by Love. That to me was the interesting point. That in his youth, he was– he became infatuated with a man who was almost his dark twin. He was as brilliant, he was morally bankrupt, and Dumbledore lost his moral compass. He wanted to believe that Grindelwald was what he wanted him to be, which is what I think, particularly, a young person’s love tends to do. We fill in the blanks in the beloved’s personality with the virtues we would like them to have. So Dumbledore was wrong.”

  26. Obviously you did not read my book. I explain everything about Dumbledore’s sexuality on chapters nine to twelve :)

  27. I agree with you, Josie, that JK Rowling’s outside commentary in interviews is interesting, but doesn’t change what’s on the page, and shouldn’t rival it –beyond clarifying, really. Philip Pullman calls reading a “democratic activity” because the reader brings half of what’s there to the page. You should be allowed to imagine it the way you want, and the author’s control ends with the words they set down, ultimately.

    One of my other favourite authors (Megan W Turner) takes such a strict line on this that she doesn’t give outside info away in interviews at all, not even to clarify characters’ ages!

    Myself, I like knowing more about magical theory that would be too much to include in the book (like how Harry’s scar hurts him), but I could do without some of the “later life” details Jo has given about the characters post DH. I like imagining my own version of a happy life for them!

    That said, Dumbledore being gay goes with the character in my mind very well. I wish it had been more overtly implied somewhere in the books –not that it was ever implied that he’s straight, either (I remember looking for hints either way, actually, before DH –“I haven’t blushed so much since Madame Pomphrey liked my new earmuffs” was the only thing I could find, and obviously that was just him being charming :P). It’s not like it’s something that would come up when it’s your headmaster, awkward comments in the movie about Harry’s love life notwithstanding.

    I think a lot of our questions on this would have been answered by having a one of the characters at hogwarts be mentioned as gay. Like, would Ron have been like “so? just don’t call anyone mudblood!”? Would he not understand muggle homophobic epithets? That might have been an interesting conversation in the trio!

  28. I hope you’ll all pardon a quick editor’s note.

    I’ve removed several posts from this comment thread – one because it was clearly an intentionally inflammatory remark with no basis in fact. The others I removed somewhat regretfully, as they were well-written, thoughtful, and polite responses, but they simply didn’t make sense once the original comment was taken down. :)

    I’m interested in hearing a variety of perspectives and opinions on this website; however, I’m not interested in comments which simply bait other visitors to respond and which ignore all rational argument. These types of comments will be deleted in the future.

    Thanks everyone – you’re a fantastic group of readers (not least for your responses to an inflammatory remark) and I appreciate that I very, very rarely have to involve myself like this. :)

  29. I have no problem with Jo “outing” Albus, because it shouldn’t matter just like it doesn’t matter if she said he had strawberry blond hair in his youth. The only way it was any impact is that he was in love with Grindelwald which just as easily could have been written to be a women. I love how casually she outed him. In its little way it chips away at the stigma.

    On another notes I simple love the little gesture of Hermione touching the top of Harrys head after their fight and how he is comforted by it. As a women who closest friends have always been mens I feel very connected to this moment, it is true love, trust, friendship and for Harry family. Without it having to be about romance. I had always wanted Harry and Hermione to end up together but i think it is far more meaningful for them to be best friends.

  30. When Hazelwillow mentioned the earmuffs line I just had a very funny image, in which Dumbledore is the original owner of the pink earmuffs that Sprout has in Chamber of Secrets because Madame Pomfrey wasn’t the only one who liked them!

  31. I can’t tell you how much I love the picture of Hermione brushing Harry’s hair. You can just see the anguish those two are going through on their faces.

  32. Nothing bothers me more about JK Rowling than her press conference/interview revelations. When I heard that she’d announced that Dumbledore was gay, I almost wrote her off as a hack immediately. In my opinion, she cheapened her character, cheapened her books, and cheapened herself in that moment.

    What does it matter if he is or if he isn’t? His sexuality is not important to the story. If it were, she would have put it in the actual books, not announced it months later. All this stuff she announces later (George marries Angelina! Harry becomes an Auror! Tonks was in Hufflepuff!) is just grasping to keep in the limelight.

    Now, if she were to publish another book, like a character encyclopedia, or a story from a different character’s point of view, I could get behind it. But she just throws these things out there for hard-core fans to obsess over. Why can’t the story just be the story? You didn’t see Tolkien or Lewis or Jordan pulling this sort of thing. Frankly, I’m inclined to not believe a one of them until she actually puts it in writing.

    Sorry for the rant. I just think it pollutes the story to have things like that bogging it down.

  33. Hm. I was going to just leave a comment here about Dumbledore’s personality, the lies and the relationship with Harry, but I feel a bit forced to say something about his sexuality as well – I have no problem with Rowling “outing” this, I simply think it does fit the character and makes sense once you think about it more closely. I also see why she didn’t include it or put more emphasis on it in the books – for one, it has NOTHING to do with the story. As Josie has mentioned very often, we do read this story through a “Harry-filter”, and to Harry Dumbledore is just Dumbledore. He is the wise old wizard who’s equivalents we encounter in a number of other fantasy novels (in Eragon and Lord of the Rings, just to mention two), and that is his major role and function for Harry and also for the story.
    Not specifically mentioning that Dumbledore is gay is actually a statement in itself – it DOES NOT MATTER. It does not matter for the story, for Harry, and therefore not for us as readers – thus teaching us that it shouldn’t matter in real life, either… Openly displaying homosexuality in writing has to me always seemed like a way too obvious attempt at teaching the reader not to prejudiced, and I quite like how it’s so subtle here.
    Also, as sorry as I am to say this, making it too obvious would probably distract readers a lot from the story line. The love relationships in general are a bit pushed aside in these novels for the sake of the Harry vs. Voldemort plot, wich is in many ways natural, and seeing what a controversial subject homosexuality can sometimes be, I find it pretty logical that it’s not more prominent when it comes to Dumbledore.

    I hope this made sense to you all :)

  34. *sarcastic* Oh sure “Machiavellian” particularly for repenting his sins of the “greater good”, knowing what lies ahead for Harry that Harry’ll die but he can choose to come back) and caring for his students even when some of them don’t deserve it.

  35. Amanda, this does and always has made sense to me..
    Rowling’s work goes above and beyond the obvious in many ways!
    There is a lot ( and in my opinion) too much focus on dramatic and romantic love in all types of books!
    What makes her works so radically different, is that there is a central theme of ‘love’ in all it’s various contexts.
    Unrequited love, the bonds of friendship and camaraderie, maternal and paternal love, the love between soul mates and even obsessive fixation, that in itself is considered a type of love.
    In Snape’s case, love is his only redeeming factor!
    She implores you to look between the lines to the bare subject matter that she feels is pivotal to the central themes she is trying to get across!
    The simple truths that make these books so powerful!
    If people had known up front that Dumbledore was gay, it would have spoiled J.K’s soft and compelling voice. It would have taken away the ‘magic’ and power of her written word.
    Am I wrong?

  36. Amanda, it made perfect sense to me. I had the advantage of coming to the online community after I’d finished the books.
    Amanda, you said everything I wanted to say.

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