The Lost Diadem

chapter twenty-nine of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

The trio follows Neville into the Room of Requirement, where other members of the D.A. soon arrive. Then as Harry watches Voldemort look for his Horcruxes, he asks the D.A. for help finding something of Ravenclaw’s. Finally he heads off to Ravenclaw Tower with Luna to look at the lost diadem, where they encounter Alecto Carrow, who summons Voldemort.
 

Gnarly Neville, by Sarapsys

The longer Harry looked at Neville, the worse he appeared.


 

Neville the Badarse, by Katie Hillman

“What? This?” Neville dismissed his injuries with a shake of the head. “This is nothing. Seamus is worse. You’ll see. Shall we get going then?”


 

Through the Portrait Hole, by Loleia

There was another noise behind them, and Harry turned. His heart seemed to fail: Ginny was now climbing through the hole in the wall.

(by Loleia)


 

Fred Weasley, by Florence Minowa

“There isn’t [a plan],” said Harry, still disoriented by the sudden appearance of all these people, unable to take everything in while his scar was still burning so fiercely.
“Just going to make it up as we go along, are we? My favorite kind,” said Fred.


 

Scary Luna, by thepolestar

Cho had got to her feet, but Ginny said rather fiercely, “No, Luna will take Harry, won’t you, Luna?”
“Oooh, yes, I’d like to,” said Luna happily.


 

Runaway Ravenclaw, by Jeni Malament

Harry… strode right up to the marble woman, and she seemed to look back at him… [she was] beautiful yet slightly intimidating.


 

about the chapter

 

Something You May Not Have Noticed

When Harry reveals to the students in the Room of Requirement that he hasn’t, in fact, returned to help them get rid of the Carrows, the disappointment in the room is palpable. In many ways, this shows how far Harry, Ron, and Hermione have come over the last two years (since Umbridge was driven out and the D.A. was disbanded). The idea that Harry would risk sneaking into Hogwarts merely to help his students get rid of the Carrows seems absurd; after all, we’ve been traveling with him as he works to tackle something so much bigger and more important than this relatively trivial problem. But look at it from the perspective of his former classmates: he formed the D.A. as a response to Umbridge, after all, and much as they want to help fight Voldemort, the possibility that this is what Harry is actually doing probably has never even entered most of their brains. They’re still just kids, after all, though in many ways, Harry, Ron, and Hermione simply are not.
 

Life at Hogwarts

The fact that the gang in the Room of Requirement knew about Harry’s breaking out of Gringotts on a dragon is pretty crazy. How did they find out? Surely the Daily Prophet wouldn’t have reported it, and even Potterwatch only seems to come on once a week or so. But perhaps Potterwatch did a special report once they heard the news; it’s not a stretch to imagine Bill hearing about it, for example, from some friends who still work at the bank. Even more interesting, however, is that the kids at Hogwarts seem to learn of the break-in before Voldemort does; after all, Terry Boot got in trouble for “yelling about it in the Great Hall at dinner,” which was at least an hour or two before Harry watched Voldemort recieve the news himself. It must have been an interesting day in all corners of the wizarding world….
 

The Boy Who Lived

As Harry and Luna sneak through the corridors of Hogwarts to Ravenclaw Tower, Harry mentions multiple times his “frequent nighttime wanderings” at Hogwarts. It’s funny, though, because we truthfully didn’t see him sneak out all that often. I mean, a couple of times a year and that’s pretty much it, right? So when I read that I can’t help but wonder: how many times has Harry snuck out of Gryffindor Tower late at night that we haven’t seen? There are plenty of days that simply aren’t described in the books, because there isn’t enough space, or because they aren’t relevant to the plot. And surely Harry wouldn’t be able to resist sneaking out for fun on occasion, in addition to all the times he does it for the sake of fighting Voldemort or winning the Triwizard Tournament. After all, he’s got an Invisibility Cloak and the Marauder’s Map! I wonder what some of those other nighttime wanderings might have been about….
 

Full Circle

As Harry stands in the Room of Requirement, insisting that he, Ron, and Hermione have to work to defeat Voldemort alone, the rest of the D.A. is rightfully indignant that he won’t include them. But it’s not the first time this has happened; in fact it was less than two years ago that Harry stood in the Forbidden Forest, preparing to go after Sirius, and insisting that his friends stay behind. Of course that time, Neville, Ginny, and Luna did come along – and subsequently proved horrifically overmatched, and quite lucky to come out of the encounter alive. But they’ve all been through quite a bit more since then, which leads to Harry’s indecision: should he trust them? It will be interesting to see how it all plays out….
 

The Final Word

“The great thing about Neville’s story for me, the over-arching story about Neville, is that he proves himself to be a boy who could’ve done it too. Yeah, Harry had the scar and arguably, Harry had an edge more talent because Harry – he has an extraordinary instinct for the right thing to do…. But Neville was, I think, amazing in [his seventh year], and proved himself a hundred times over worthy of being a Gryffindor”–J.K. Rowling, December 2007
 


26 Responses to “The Lost Diadem”

  1. I hate missing posts/comments, so I subscribed to everything :) this is my favorite site ever and I tell every HP fan I know about it.
    I think my favorite part of this chapter is the people who show up. Everyone Harry ever cared about at school is there and so happy to see him. Even Cho wants to take him to Ravenclaw Tower (love how Ginny is like oh heck no). The Hogwarts kids are just so willing and prepared to do whatever it takes. I think that’s how they know things so quickly. Their egos don’t get in the way. They know what’s up.

  2. I loved this chapter.
    The main characters have gathered. Everyone is together.
    You know something exciting is on the verge of happening.
    Time for the finale.

  3. In the case of the frequent nighttime wanderings, there must be a lot of times we don’t see really because all trough the books we here mention of other areas. At one point Harry says ‘there a suit of armour near the kitchens’ but in a later book he doesn’t know how to get in! but he also mentions in the first books the bit about how many staircases, and fake doors etc. I always thought it meant Harry had been exploring his new home but when he puts the cloak on, its seems to be the first time he thinks about sneaking out.
    To me there’s always bits that seem to show he has wandered and then parts that show he hasn’t which gets a bit confusing so I just ignore the second parts mostly

  4. Hey, Josie, please change the HPC Banner…something related to Hogwarts would be nice…

  5. “Are you going to overthrow Snape and the Carrows?” = “Are you going to overthrow the Romans?”

    “No, I’ve just got to look for something” = “No, I must do the will of the One who sent Me.”

  6. Spoiler discussion: Headmaster Snape’s dilemma: how to maintain control of the school for the ultimate safety of the students? Headmaster Snape was charged with keeping the students safe (or at least as safe as possible). As the DA ramps up their underground fight back at the Headmaster and his active associates, how can he keep a lid on it? He cannot let the DA run rampant, nor can he put the school in a total lockdown. He cannot confide or ask assistance of the “good” teachers. They would not / could not trust him. (And it would blow his cover.) So at a minimum, he has to fight and control their efforts to block him as well as those efforts from the students.

    Then the Headmaster asks his Death Eater friends / Voldy to go after Neville’s mom to force Neville’s cooperation. So Neville finds shelter in the ROR. But what other out of control responses from the Carrows/Headmaster cause the need for so many to join Neville? Have all of the punishments turned into torture sessions? Has the Headmaster lost what control he had over the Carrows (per his promise to keep the students safe)? Snape’s dilemma is very difficult and requires extraordinary talents as an administrator / manager to achieve.

    Comments on SYMNHN: From the standpoint of the DA it is as bad inside Hogwarts as it is outside. They are kids/young adults with their viewpoints maturing (but not yet fully there) that there are things more important than me. This is shown by the DA staying in Hogwarts to help others instead of doing “a Fred and George” and leaving school. I know truancy is pretty serious stuff for those under 17 (think snachers); but if you are getting tortured, escape sounds pretty good.

  7. I love the picture of Fred, it really captures his personality.

    As for the quote by JKR, Neville most definitely proved himself. He is worth 100 Malfoy’s never mind 12.

    I loved the parts with Ginny in this chapter. I’ve mentioned it before but I really love her character. Unfortunately, for being the main character’s love interest, there really isn’t much about their relationship so I have to treasure the little moments there are and make up the rest in my head.

  8. I like your analogy, Grace Has Victory. And great reflections on Snape, Gary.

    Great chapter overall. I, too, love how almost everybody shows up. (Except my rant about Tonks leaving the baby, that I’ve mentioned elsewhere.)

    And Josie, I’m so torn when a new chapter comes out each time now. It’s like when the last book finally came out. I tell my kids (my son is finally old enough to read the books!), you have no idea what it was like, waiting a year — or two — for the next book to come out…first getting just the title, and wondering…that’s all over. You just get them from the library, one after the other.

    This site has filled that gap…and is coming to an end as well, at least as far as new chapters is concerned. Thanks, Josie.

  9. Oh, that last “thanks, Josie” was sincere, not sarcastic! I hope that came across right. :)

  10. Neville really does deserve his place as a Gryffindor. I love how the character has grown from being a bit careless to the leader of the DA. It was sad to hear about all the scars, but the optimism he held for Harry was really touching. The meeting with the rest of his friends was moving as well. It was nice that the characters had that positive moment before things got more serious later on. Harry did need that little push to see that his friends would be of help, something he seemed to have resisted before.

    Christa: love your comment about Ginny

    The picture of the Ravenclaw ghost is amazing

  11. Well pointed out, Edt. I forgot to mention in my post that Neville’s development as a character is one of my favorite sub-plots of the series.

  12. Actually, it doesn’t entirely surprise me that the kids would learn about the Gringotts break in first. The wizarding world would have been talking about this nonstop, but who would want to tell Voldemort news like this?

  13. Manini Jain, you will be getting your wish very soon in a big way.

    GhV, that moment was the first time in the books the Christian parallels struck me in the face, but I thought it might be a bit heavy-handed (not to mention spoiler-y) to write about it on the page….

    Gary, I love your thoughts about Snape’s dilemma. The one thing that you didn’t touch on that’s very much on his side is this: he can trust all the teachers (except the Carrows) to care for the students as well. So when he battles McGonagall in the next chapter, it seems he must realize that something has inspired her to fight, and decides it’s okay to flee, as she and the other teachers will do what they need to do to keep the school safe.

    Thanks for all the friendly comments! I’m excited about posting the rest of the chapters….

  14. Josie – When I read this chapter for the first time, I was struck by the JKR’s skill at tempo…we can feel the tempo of the whole book shift and quicken in preparation for the unavoidable final confrontation. I love it! And the contrast of the still youthful innocence of the Hogwarts students and the cruelty of the Carrows and Deatheaters is amazing. Thank you for your work towards completing this fantastic study!

    My heart sighs at the great picture of Fred!

  15. Josie, excellent point on the confrontation between McGonagall and Headmaster Snape. To further your point: the Headmaster senses Harry nearby (and has been warned by Voldy to expect him — so not much a surprise) in much the same way as in the GOF scene with MadEye after Harry’s bath with the egg. Snape can’t see Harry, can’t prove he’s there, but he knows. Thus, to your point: the Headmaster can make the assumption that Harry and McGonagall have joined together, nothing further for Snape to accomplish by staying — things have come to a head. And your point on him trusting the other teachers to care for the students is valid. How could he not know that the requirement that all of the teachers send students to the Carrows for all punishments resulted in far fewer incidents (or reported incidents) than “normal”?

  16. I never thought about Snape leaving because he could trust the other teachers. Thanks for pointing that out! As to The Boy Who Lived and how often he snuck out under the cloak, I wonder if he and Ginny ever snuck out of the castle together (under the cloak, of course) for a little alone time.

  17. I think I understand why the DA is so disappointed when Harry denies he’s there for revolution – because, for them, this is the way to fight Voldemort: by fighting his underlings. Look at it from their perspective: they can’t just plot an attack on Voldy himself and don’t know about Horcruxes or anything. And Voldy has taken over everything – Ministry, Diagon Alley, etc – and no adults can stand up to him. So they are making their final stand at Hogwarts, the one place where not everyone has given up the fight, and they’re fighting the only fight they can: against the Carrows and Snape. And surely Harry must realize this, and why else would he risk so much to suddenly show up at Hogwarts? I can see where they’re coming from.

    And Gary, I think you have some great points about Snape: nowhere was I more impressed with his survival than here. It’s one thing to double agent for Voldy and Dumbledore. But to spend a year living among enemies that you’re trying to protect without their knowledge, fighting against your supposed allies, and with no one to turn to… bravo, Severus.

    Also, I have to say that I am dreading the end of DH on this site more than I’m dreading the end of the movies, because this site has been so meaningful to me ever since I joined back during Book 1. The discussion here has truly inspired me, to the point where I even gave an academic lecture at a con based on our discussion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXKDbOK9Yk). So thank you everyone, and special thanks to Josie for making this wonderful site.

  18. I loved how in this chapter Ginny was so defensive of Harry going with Cho, and Luna took him instead :)

  19. I was thinking about that too Natalie because I’m wondering why Cho wanted to go with Harry in the first place? Is it because Cho found Harry “interesting” now.

  20. Great discussion, guys!
    Amy, loved your take on Ginny. I feel the same way.
    Grace, I also loved your analogy of the Romans and the students. Good catch!

  21. I think Cho wants to be remembered. She’s been through a lot. If she helped Harry on one of the final stages of his mission, she might feel like everything she had to put up with was worth it? I don’t know. I just always felt bad for her. She was nice to Harry, no matter what. Maybe she thought she liked him (in OoTP), but I think she really wanted to be friends with him but never got the chance. So, maybe this time she wanted to do something for him.

  22. hpboy13, at the risk of drawing undue attention to a huge spoiler (I fully understand why Josie is avoiding this kind of comment up the top!)…

    I think I understand why the Jews are so disappointed when Jesus denies he’s there for revolution – because, for them, this is the way to fight the Devil: by fighting the pagan Romans. Look at it from their perspective: they can’t just plot an attack on the Devil himself and don’t know about the great plan of substitutionary atonement or anything. And Rome has taken over the whole known world – and no conquered people can stand up to Rome. So they are making their final stand in Israel, the one place where they have confidence that the One God is on their side, and they’re fighting the only fight they can: against the Romans. And surely the Messiah must realize this, and why else would he risk so much to press on to Jerusalem? I can see where they’re coming from.

    Gary, I never stopped to think how hard that part of the double game would be for Snape. THanks for pointing it out!

  23. Jeremy – I always interpreted it as Cho thinking that she made a mistake in letting go of Harry and she saw this as her opportunity to become close to him again – both in history and romantically.

  24. On the subject of Snape as headmaster, I have a very hard time picturing him as a very effective one. He doesn’t have the human touch (to say the least), he’s far from a administrative type, and he clearly doesn’t want the job when Dumbledore asks him to protect the students. Throw in the shenanigans of the Carrows and the resistance to him by the teaching staff and the Hogwarts students and I can picture that year at Hogwarts being quite chaotic.

    Also, faculty meetings that year must have been aaaawkward.

  25. I feel sorry for the DA, feeling let down by Harry, while he’s not able to explain to them what he’s really doing. Frustrating.
    After all, a lot of the students – Neville in particular – have put all their effort into DA. It just breaks my heart a bit that Neville seems to be living in that room, not to mention only living for DA… of course he was happy when Harry returned, and dissapointed when it turned out he wasn’t there for the reason Neville had hoped.

  26. Just finished rereading the 7th book today. (Naturally, I read the whole Gringotts to Epilogue in one chunk, you just can’t put the book down!) Chugga’s comment made me laugh though, because I can’t imagine how the staff meetings would have gone. But now that I’m thinking about it, just imagine how that year must have been for the teachers! They’re stuck at Hogwarts doing their best to keep this kids safe from Snape and the Carrows. It must have been a pretty horrible year for them too, knowing that their students are being tortured.

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