chapter thirty of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

With Fred and George gone, Hogwarts turns quite unruly. But as Gryffindor’s final Quidditch match gets underway, Hagrid pulls Harry and Hermione away, and introduces them to his giant brother, Grawp. As they leave the forest, the group is threatened by the centaurs, but upon returning they discover that Ron has won Gryffindor the Quidditch Cup.

Portable Swamp, by Gnatkip

Fred and George… had not left instructions on how to remove the swamp that now filled the corridor on the fifth floor of the east wing. Umbridge and Filch had been observed trying different means of removing it but without success. Eventually the area was roped off and Filch, gnashing his teeth furiously, was given the task of punting students across it to their classrooms.

(by Gnatkip)


Into Twilight, by Beeeb

The path was becoming increasingly overgrown and the trees grew so closely together as they walked farther and farther into the forest that it was as dark as dusk.

(by Beeeb)


Hagger, by FizzingWhizbees

Grawp knelt between two trees he had not yet uprooted. They looked up into his startlingly huge face…. It was as though the features had been hewn onto a great stone ball.


by Hannah-Dora

“Oh Hagrid, why on earth didn’t you let him!” said Hermione, flopping down onto a ripped-up tree and burying her face in her hands. “What do you think you’re going to do with a violent giant who doesn’t even want to be here!”


Grawp, by prettyannamoon

But Grawp merely gave another low roar; it was hard to say whether he was listening to Hagrid or whether he even recognized the sounds Hagrid was making as speech.


Our King, by Marta T

“HARRY! HERMIONE!” yelled Ron, waving the silver Quidditch Cup in the air and looking quite beside himself. “WE DID IT! WE WON!”

(by Marta T)


about the chapter


Life at Hogwarts

I certainly don’t feel badly for Umbridge, but as a former teacher myself, I have to confess that once Fred and George leave, what she begins to suffer through is just about every teacher’s worst nightmare. She tries putting entire classes in detention and using students who are willing to rat on their peers, but ultimately her students have realized that there are a lot more of them than there are of her. And once that happens, there is nothing in the world that she can do. Yikes. At least they’re doing it to someone who deserves it!

The Boy Who Lived

Harry’s loyalty to Hagrid can be astonishing sometimes. Hagrid, after all, has had Harry carry a dragon to the top of the Astronomy Tower; sent him to acromantulas looking for information, where he was nearly eaten; forced illegally bred Blast-Ended Skrewts on him and his classmates for an entire semester; and now expects him to slip illegally into the Forbidden Forest, past murderous centaurs, to teach English to a Giant. Once in a while Harry and his friends see the truth of these crazy situations, like when Harry begrudgingly admits Grubbly-Plank’s lesson was so good, or here when Hermione finally screams out in frustration, “Of course he’s going to be chucked out and to be perfectly honest, after what we’ve just seen, who can blame Umbridge?”

But despite these occasional thoughts (not to mention outbursts), Harry’s loyalty to Hagrid never wavers, and his friends take their cues from him and follow suit. Because while it’s hard for us to imagine, Harry never had a single friend until he was eleven years old – and that first friend was Hagrid. Hagrid proved his friendship to Harry the first day they met, telling him about his parents, and buying him Hedwig. But he’s proved his friendship to Harry over and over again by steadfastly believing in him and overlooking his fame to see Harry as a person. Hagrid’s ideas may be dumb – or, in this case, unbelievably dumb – but he means well, and he’s as loyal as they come. And if there’s anybody who will never forget that, it’s Harry Potter.

The Final Word

“Grawp is obviously the very stupidest thing that Hagrid ever brought home. In his long line of bringing home stupid things—Aragog, the Blast-Ended Skrewts—Grawp is the one that should have finished him off.”–J.K. Rowling, August 2004

26 Responses to “Grawp”

  1. Wow, i just found this website and LOVE IT!!! great art! keep it up!

  2. Another one of my favorite McGonagall moments is in this chapter – “It unscrews the other way.” Ha, ha!

    I do see Hagrid’s reasoning for bringing Grawp with him (even if it was beyond stupid). Grawp is the only family member Hagrid has and I’d probably want to take my half-brother home with me too, even if he was half-giant.

    Bringing Grawp did have its benefits though, and we will see in this book and Book 7…..

  3. Oh yes, Hagrid and his monsters… With him we had Dragons (Norbert), Hellhounds (Fluffy), Acromantulas (Aragog), Hippogriffs (Buckbeak), Blast-Ended Skrewts, Thestrals, Giants (Grawp) and he tried to obtain a Chimaera (did I forgot anything?). But even him, as far as we know, never tried to hatch a chicken’s egg under a toad (for those who don’t know that breeds a Basilisk), so I think that even Hagrid draws a line to what dangerous creatures he tries to obtain (probably the Basilisk is the only exception to the rule, maybe by hearing from Aragog what kind of creature escaped from the Chamber of Secrets). Nevertheless the remark that Harry or Ron wrote on the classification of the most dangerous beasts on “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” (“Anything Hagrid likes”) still applies…

  4. I love the picture of Fred and George’s swamp. The sight of Filch punting students across it reminds me of something I’ve wondered before: how on earth could one squib manage the caretaker’s job at Hogwarts single-handedly? Just keeping the corridors clean (which we know is Filch’s responsibility because he complains about it often) seems like more work than one person could manage without magic. Then beginning with this chapter he has to spend the entire school day as a ferryman. And he always seems to be patrolling the castle at night – when does this man sleep?

  5. By this point I am so fed up with Hagrid that Hermione’s comment rings true, Hagrid really should be chucked out. Dumbledore really needs to stop treating Hogwarts as a sanctuary for all the outcasts of the wizarding world. Perhaps keeping Trelawney and Firenze around is innocuous, but Snape is malicious towards the students, and Hagrid in his unbelievable stupidity is downright dangerous.

    And this is one of the few moments in the series that I feel really sorry for Ron. To not have his two best friends present for his only moment of glory since Year 1 must have really hurt.

  6. To be perfectly honest, when I first read about Filch “punting students across it to their classrooms”, I had a MUCH different picture in mind.

    I had no idea what was happening. The only use of “punting” I knew of was in American football, and to “punt” the ball was to kick it. I had a mental image of Filch kicking students over the swamp to the other side! After reading that the “punting” was actually Filch ferrying students (a la Venice) from one side of the swamp to the other, I was a bit disappointed! LOL.

    And I completely agree about Grawp. Even for Hagrid, the guy who loves monsters, to bring back a giant (even if he was a runt) against his will is just unbelievable! I never had trouble believing that Hagrid never found a wife. Could you imagine what she would have to put up with (and clean up after)??

  7. I guess that Filch would really enjoy to punt students across the swamp, American football style, that would make his day :)

  8. As far as Filch keeping the castle clean goes, he’s a squib, yeah, but he can use magical cleaning stuff that’ll probably make the job easier than keeping a muggle castle clean. And he can have students in detention polishing trophies or emptying bed pans (why does Pomfrey have enough bed pans that need emptying when Lupin’s in there for the full moon? PoA) or doing other little cleaning jobs, probably… but yeah. That’s still a big task for one man. Especially when he seems to spend all his time chasing students down to make sure they’re not in the wrong place.

  9. Jimma, you’re so right! Thank God poor Madam Maxime didn’t end up with Hagrid – she’d have left him within a week!

  10. Filch punting the students across the swamp is a hilarious thought, and I can’t believe I actually missed that one. To be fair, I don’t like this chapter much, but I guess it serves me right for thinking I didn’t need to use a dictionary. Thanks for teaching me a new word ;)

  11. Gnatkip’s picture is fantastic! I enjoy the little tidbits about Umbridge’s steadily worsening position.

    Re: Hagrid, I think we have to remember that Hogwarts is in every respect a highly unusual school — not least in the leeway it grants its staff and the level of danger to its students it is prepared to accept. Wizards have different standards, and I think the way they run Hogwarts is one of the most telling, all the more so because it goes completely unremarked most of the time both by the characters and the author. No wonder they can’t understand how Muggles think.

    What must Muggle parents think when they hear what Hogwarts is like? Do they ever consider pulling their kids out? We see that only in cases where there is genuine danger even to wizards!

  12. Wouldn’t most of the day to day cleaning and other work be done by the 100 house elves at Hogwarts? I don’t think they only do the cooking – Dobby is the only one cleaning the Gryffindor commonroom while Hermione is leaving out her elf hats, etc. Filch probably does the “emergency” stuff – dungballs flung about, taps left on, mud all over the floor, etc.
    And yes, Hagrid’s “monster” fixation really comes to a head with Grawp – but he does have a really soft heart under it all – and let’s face it – to be completely alone familywise and then find that you have a real blood family member would be great for anyone!

  13. I sense in this chapter a possible hypocrisy on Hermione’s part. When she discovers Hagrid’s half-giant, she says “giants can’t all be horrible, it’s like werewolf prejudice, just bigotry”. Yet here she comes face to face with a giant for the first time and is both terrified and reproachful of its bringer. Is this perhaps a growing up lesson for her, that despite good intentions sometimes you have to face reality to an extent? Bearing in mind of course that Grawp does eventually prove to gain some measure of civilisedness, so it could be seen as both ways at once…

  14. Hagrid is an oaf sometimes, but to me he is a loveable oaf. :) Having said that I don’t like him bringing Grawp home against his will. Other than that though I think people are rather unfair to Hagrid sometimes. As Josie said, he has always been steadfast in his own loyalty towards Harry. He invites Harry down to tea in PS so that he can hear all about his first week, make sure Harry’s settling in. Hagrid’s caring, if naive.

  15. You mention that Harry has never had a single friend before Hagrid. I have always wondered about Harry’s schooling before Hogwarts. Didn’t he have to go to grammar school to learn to read and write and do maths? Harry is a pretty likable guy and I can’t fathom him making ZERO friends during his elementary schooling. Just never quite made sense to me.

  16. Kristina M, I don’t have the first book in front of me, but there was a line in it somewhere about how Harry had no friends at school because Dudley and his gang of bullies made sure of it, and nobody at the school wanted to mess with Dudley. I think Harry pretty surely *would* have had friends, as you say – it just wasn’t worth it to the other nine- and ten-year-olds to risk getting beaten up.

  17. I have to say I still found it odd Harry didn’t have any friends, even with the threat of Dudley, as I don’t think the threat of Dudley would have worked as well on a girl. I just don’t see Dudley getting away with beating up a girl, for if only the fact a girl wouldn’t waste a second telling a teacher what had passed. Thus I would have thought there would have been a least one person with enough courage to try and befriend Harry.

  18. marielle, I know that it’s stretching credibility a little, but that is indeed what JKR tells us. Harry had no friends at primary school because everyone was so frightened of Dudley’s gang. He probably had non-enemies, e.g. pupils who were willing to do classroom group-work with him, but nobody wanted to be caught hanging around with him in the playground.

    At the risk of being an over-picky Brit: Harry never went to “grammar” school. A grammar school is a type of secondary school, i.e., for 11- to 18-year-olds, like Hogwarts. The distinctive of a grammar school is that it’s only for the abler students – you have to pass a kind of IQ test before you can go. A small town like Little Whinging would probably not have a grammar school, which is why the Dursleys were going to send Harry to the comprehensive (which is the standard type of secondary school in England/Wales).

    Harry and Dudley apparently went to the same primary school, which would simply have been the government-funded school nearest to their home. A primary school is for ages 4-11. Sometimes it is divided into two independent sections, an “infants school” for ages 4-7 and a “junior school” for ages 7-11.

  19. It is mentioned that Dungbombs and Stinkpellets were dropped so frequently in the corridors that students were performing the Bullbe-Head Charm on themselves before leaving class. Of everyone knew how to perform the charm, how did they learn it since Hermione could not find it in the library the previous year when she and Ron were helping Harry before the Second Task?

  20. Jeremy, Cedric and Fleur had to learn about it from somewhere to use it in the second task… and it would only take one student knowing about it, who could then share it with his/her friends, and it wouldn’t be long until it spread throughout the whole school. It’s like how Lupin talks about Levicorpus being “in fashion” when he was in school, even though it was a spell Snape invented. Somehow it got out and took on a life of its own.

  21. Most of the students probably thought of it *because* of the second task. Before that, it would be unlikely they would know about it, but perhaps some sixth and seventh years would be able to pass it on.

  22. Jimma, I had the same idea as you! I actually only just figured out that he was playing ferryman because of this site! This whole time, I thought Jo meant he was literally kicking kids across a swamp! I was like, “how the hell is he doing this?!” LOL

    I think when it comes to Hogwarts standards of safety, a lot of what Josie has said comes into play. Like the physical toughness that wizards seem to have that presides over regular Muggles. Some kind of magic seems to protect them from very serious injury from things that would definitely cause it, like bludgers (balls made of solid iron flying very, very fast) to the head and falling 50 feet and only breaking a wrist. Dumbledore realizes some of the prejudices against “dangerous creatures”, knows Hagrid can teach them to be around these creatures without getting hurt, and knows that if all goes wrong, they’ll survive, especially with Madam Pomfrey on site. He only says no to the really dangerous things, like dragons and acromantulas cause of their illegality and actual danger to even wizards.

    I can see the students thinking during this book, “hey, what was that charm during the Second Task last year, that put a bubble over there heads?” and then someone else saying, “oh yea, the Bubble Head Charm! Let’s go look it up!” or whatever.

  23. I just laughed out loud to myself becaue I thought Filch was punting the students (football style) across the swamp too! Thanks for clearing that up with the choice of artwork, Josie! And the site on the whole is wonderful!

  24. with all modes of communication being watched, how did so many students manage to get stinkpellets and dungbombs??? even with filch checking on them ?
    and regarding levicorpus, how do people make new spells???
    according to me, it would be like, discovering more latin words coz all spells are latin…
    but then its borrowed from inheritance cycle. they have got old norse…
    JKR never mentions much about it…

  25. @ud probably because there are so many more students than Filch, Filch is only one person remember?

  26. Josie, I really like your piece on the Harry-Hagrid relationship. Loyalty is definitely valued very highly by both of them.

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