Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs & The Servant of Lord Voldemort

chapters eighteen & nineteen of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

Sirius Black and Remus Lupin explain to Harry, Ron, and Hermione the story of the Marauders, and of Peter Pettigrew betraying James and Lily. After a brief interruption by Snape, Sirius and Lupin reveal Pettigrew, who admits to his crimes, and they bind him up, taking him back to the castle.
 

Map Makers, by Ani Bester

“I doubt whether any Hogwarts students ever found out more about the Hogwarts grounds and Hogsmeade than we did…. And that’s how we came to write the Marauder’s Map.”


 

That's Right, by Tealin Raintree

“That’s right,” sneered a cold voice from the wall behind Lupin.


 

Hatred, by gerre

It would have been impossible to say which face showed more hatred.

(by gerre)


 

The Servant of Lord Voldemort, by James J. Dunn aka JamusDu

A moment later, a man was standing where Scabbers had been, cringing and wringing his hands.


 

Please, Remus, by Ani Bester

“Remus,” gasped Pettigrew, and Harry could see beads of sweat breaking out over his pasty face, “you don’t believe him, do you…? He tried to kill me, Remus….”


 

Shoulder to Shoulder, by Jenny Dolfen

“You should have realized,” said Lupin quietly, “if Voldemort didn’t kill you, we would. Good-bye, Peter.”


 

about the chapters

 

Something You May Not Have Noticed

It’s sort of funny, looking back on it, that the whole Marauder clan was in Gryffindor (Rowling has said in interviews that they were). Most Gryffindors who are contemporaries of Harry show their bravery at some point, although they each have their own ways of showing it. But Lupin is the first to admit to cowardice in neglecting to tell Dumbledore that Sirius Black is an Animagus, and Peter Pettigrew certainly seems to lack bravery in just about any sense at all. At least in Lupin’s case, we can see what the Sorting Hat was thinking, even though this won’t be the last time we see him acting cowardly. But what was the Sorting Hat thinking with Pettigrew?
 

The Power of Magic

It would be interesting to know just how difficult the Animagus transformation really is to learn. According to Hermione only seven wizards have registered as Animagi this century (including McGoangall) – yet James, Sirius, and Pettigrew were able to perform the feat when they were only fifth-year students. Lupin mentions that they were the brightest students of their time, but what would really be interesting to know is how many unregistered Animagi might be running around. It’s a little bit of a scary thought.
 

The Boy Who Lived

One thing Harry’s not always very good at is remembering critical information. Such as, in this case, Trelawney’s prophecy. Admittedly he doesn’t yet know whether it’s true or not, but if someone told me in a creepy voice that Voldemort’s servant was setting out before midnight to rejoin his master, I’d probably do my best to keep that in mind as I, you know, watch Voldemort’s servant get exposed and tied up. On the other hand, we’ll see another case where acting on a Prophecy caused more problems than it solved, so maybe it wasn’t worth it after all.
 

The Final Word

“Pettigrew is a very weak character. He’s not someone I like at all. He’s a weak person and he likes to gravitate to people who are stronger.”–J.K. Rowling, October 2007
 


45 Responses to “Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs & The Servant of Lord Voldemort”

  1. I’m kind of torn about Lupin. I mean, Snape does have a point about Lupin: He did help Sirius the entire year, by not saying anything. At least he could’ve reminded Dumbledore that the Whomping Willow was still an entrance of Hogwarts. And why didn’t Dumbledore notice anything when the MArauders were in school? Did he really think that the closest friends of Lupin wouldn’t have known at all about his condition, whereas Hermione could find it out in a few lessons?
    And what I also find weird is that if Sirius was wandering around the grounds as a dog, Lupin or Harry never saw HIM on the map.
    I guess you can say it was a combination of dumb luck and coincidences that it went like it went…

  2. Peter reminds me of a Slytherin, because he is brave when he needs to be to survive, rather than having the self sacrificing air of a Gryffindor. Perhaps it had to do with choice? Harry said it lets you choose,and maybe Peter felt intimidated by Slytherin’s reputation. Additionally, Dumbledore said he thinks they sort too early, so maybe being an eleven year old boy helped. Lots of preteen/teen boys have the “brave/noble, but stupid” complex that seems to be key with Gryffindor. I don’t really know. It’s a tough question.

    On a totally unrelated note, Snape really ticked me off in this part. I’ve never been a huge Snape fan (at least as a person, as a character he is amazing), and this part just really ticked me off. He is so bitter and childish in his grudge against Lupin and Sirius. He tied up Lupin only because Lupin called him out on being a fool. Honestly, it just bugged me, as well as disturbed me. He really wants Sirius and Lupin to be kissed by a Dementor? To me, that’s just disgusting. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody, so it’s not because Remus and Sirius just happen to be my two favorite characters. Even Peter doesn’t deserve that.

  3. i think he did it because he believe one or both of them to have led to Lilly’s death…and right now he’s so angry he doen’t care which one of them it is… I think it’s desperation…

  4. Yes, as far as he knows at that point, he has got a convicted murderer and traitor in there… and going to Azkaban and/or getting Kissed by Dementors is what passes for justice in the wizarding world. Even Lily’s death aside (which it really can’t be, not for Severus, but for the sake of argument), he’s got good reason to be very pissed off with Sirius and Remus: in school, Sirius nearly got Severus killed or infected with lycanthropy through either design or sheer recklessness, and now here is Sirius waving that in his face (“joke’s on you again”) at that place which was the scene of the incident!

    As for tying up Lupin only because Lupin called him a fool, I’d say rather it’s because he suspects Lupin is going to transform (as in fact he does). Lupin waves him away seeming unconcerned about the whole thing in the scene were we see Severus delivering his Wolfsbane potion and urging him (my paraphrase here) to take plenty of it as he’s made a whole cauldron. So he may suspect that Lupin has not been conscientious about that. (And really it’s possibly very reckless of Lupin — why *hadn’t* he taken the potion? It should be just about the most important thing in the world, essential medication. If he was negligent, he was putting students’ and others’ lives in terrible danger.)

  5. I agree that Snape is a git, of course I must admit that I loathe him and cannot be objective no matter how hard I try. But he, though a grown adult, is a bully to children who have no recourse for his actions, and takes this opportunity to settle some ridiculous adolescent score. No one can argue that he’s trying to see justice done or whatever, he only wants to see Sirius and Lupin suffer as much as possible, and Harry too, if he can manage it. To me, Snape has never matured past the 16 year old kid who got bullied by the Marauders–he sort of stopped maturing that day we see in the pensieve.

  6. I was thinking that maybe the reason Dumbledore hired Lupin this year was that he knew Sirius and could help prevent him from getting Harry. But then Dumbledore should have also remembered the Whomping Willow being an entrance (as mentioned by kim above).

    Sirius: “Tell them whatever you like. But make it quick, Remus.” Indeed, JKR takes her time here and drags it out.

  7. On a completely unrelated note, I’ve noticed how exceptionally unobservant Harry is about some things. Just like he doesn’t remember Trelawney’s prediction, he also doesn’t remember half the students in his year. I mean their are THIRTY NINE students he attends classes with and yet he doesn’t know Susan Bones’ name in his fifth year.

  8. I like what Courtney Daniels said: “He sort of stopped maturing that day we see in the pensieve.” I’m a huge Snape fan but I absolutely agree, in some ways he is never able to move past things that happened in his adolescence. In a similar vein, I’ve always felt like Sirius stopped maturing when he went to Azkaban (not his fault, really, but sadly true). This kind of explains Snape and Sirius’s relationship from this point forward: two eternal adolescents who can’t stop getting in pissing matches.

  9. Expanding on what Courtney said, I think Snape stopped maturing when he stopped being friends with Lily – she was a better influence on him than probably anyone realized. As for Sirius, I think he’s just inherently immature (not always a bad thing!).

    In regards to the Animagus thing, that’s also very interesting. We know of four unregistered Animagi within one decade. No wonder, before DH, there were theories on every character and their mother being an Animagus! I remember at one point whenever I read an editorial I thought, “If this has ‘the only conclusion is that character X is an Animagus’ I’m gonna scream.” We had Snape as a spider or bat, we had Slughorn, we had Regulus, we had jsut about every character. Interesting side note, the first time I read about Snape flying off from Hogwarts in DH, I thought he HAD turned itno a bat and thought, “Dang it, they were right all along.”

  10. I think it’s important to think from Snape’s perspective as to exactly what he had overheard. Lupin, who Snape had suspected all year, had just confessed to deceiving the Headmaster with crucial information regarding how a (supposed) mass murderer and Death Eater had been entering the school. Lupin was about to become a werewolf. Snape had reminded Lupin, almost immediately upon revealing himself, about the neglected Wolfsbane and Lupin did nothing. One might almost imagine that Lupin didn’t care that he hadn’t taken the Wolfsbane. Then there was Sirius, as far as Snape was concerned a mass murderer, Death Eater, and betrayer of Lily, not to mention one-time would-be murderer of Snape (once again, in Snape’s opinion), and Sirius had just finished showing his continuing satisfaction with the Prank that could have killed Snape. Further, Snape could see one child already seriously injured by Black. Snape hadn’t heard any of the evidence about Peter and thus was faced with, as far as he knew, two extremely dangerous individuals, one a crazed mass murderer and Death Eater who had already injured a child and the other a duplicitous werewolf, possibly in league with the mass murderer, and about to transform. Snape’s adolescent grudge, while still active, was probably the least of the motivating factors in his reactions.

  11. wynnleaf, I totally see where you’re coming from, but I don’t agree. If you read from the moment Snape enters the Shack, he listens to a whole lot of backstory in what is clearly a very calm environment. He has plenty of time to realize that Lupin is expressing regret for running around as a werewolf, and plenty of time to notice that the kids still have their wands, the adults don’t, and the kids pretty clearly aren’t Confunded. No matter how angry he may have been upon first encountering the scene, I think it’s completely irrational and irresponsible for him to watch as much of the conversation as he does and still draw his conclusions.

  12. I completely agree with Emily, Snape and Sirius are eternal adolescents, thus the relationship they have.
    I believe that in this particular book Snape looses all the presence he may have, I mean, he gets so mad about what happened during their years at Hogwarts that he doesn’t think straight.
    This is an excellent chapter. I love it.

  13. Re:Something you may not have noticed, I feel the value of Lupin’s bravery is that it doesn’t come easily to him. He has to struggle with himself and make a real effort to be brave. In this sense it is similar to Ron’s loyalty to Harry. Ron struggles with his jealousy / envy of Harry, but ultimately puts all those feelings aside to be there for his friend.

  14. I alaways wondered if Spapes dislike of Harry was more because he reminded him of James or that he remended him more of Lily. Lupin commented on how much Harry was like his mother. It must have pained Snape a good deal to see Harry every day and be reminded of both the girl he couldn’t have and the man who got her.

  15. A couple of things….
    First, there’s a HUGE contradiction, and I can only think that Jo wasn’t thinking too far ahead when she wrote it. In PS, Hagrid says something along the lines of ‘there wasn’t a wizard who went bad that wasn’t in Slytherin’, but Peter was in Griffindor. Even then when they thought that it had been Sirius, he was a Griffindor, too.
    The second is about Snape. I think I’m the only one here that actually likes him. He’s one of my favourite (if not my complete favourite) characters in the entire series for the simple reason that he’s so complex. Double, triple, quadruple agent, and everything he’s done from the time he was like, 8 years old has been out of his love for Lily, whether it be trying to help her, or reacting out of jealousy of James. When he looks at Sirius and Lupin, he sees the person who he believes caused Lily’s death more than himself, and the person helping him. Even his loathing of Harry is, I believe, for the reason Sarah pointed out, and out of pain of losing her, both to James, and her death.

  16. Adele, I always assumed that Hagrid’s statement about Slytherin was intended to show his prejudices and stereotypes much more than to serve as a statement of actual fact. Hagrid would be very familiar with Slughorn, for instance, and he steadfastly believes in Snape’s goodness above and beyond any other character in the books, save Dumbledore.

    Oh, and for what it’s worth – BELIEVE me, you are NOT the only one who likes him. I would say he has more fans than any other character in the series, for all the reasons you stated. I just don’t happen to be one of them, and my opinions are a little more represented here than most, given that I’ve written the entire site. ;)

  17. Funny you should mention that Josie, because I love being on a site where I can mention that I just don’t like Snape. As a character, he’s wonderfully complex, of course, but he’s obviously very immature, and frankly, I’ve found it hard to reconcile the way he treated Harry during the books, even knowing his whole back story. Sirius is in a similar boat.

    As for Peter being in Gryffindor, it’s worth nothing that he’s not very ambitious (like a Slytherin). He spent twelve years as a pet rat and seemed perfectly happy with that existence. So, really, maybe him being put in Gryffindor had less to do with bravery (though I would argue becoming an Animagus and hanging with a werewolf is pretty damn brave) and more to do with him not fitting into the other houses. He’s not terribly loyal (Hufflepuff) or smart (Ravenclaw), either.

    And as for Lupin being cowardly, I think a lot of that has to do with “nobility” which is Gryffindor trait as well.

  18. Guessing that James,Sirius,Remus and Peter were placed in Gryffindor,who was the fifth person staying with them in their dormitory?

  19. Re: Peter being sorted into Gryffindor. I think that he was just put in there because he specifically didn’t fit into the other houses. He shows no loyalty to his friends at all, so Hufflepuff is out. We are told that he was not the most studious, so can’t be a Ravenclaw. He may show a small bit of cunning with his faking death plan, but I really don’t think he would be Slytherin material. Gryffindor seems to be just a ‘go-to’ house. I assumed that Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw would be these (if students didn’t ‘fit’ anywhere) but when I thought about it, those two have the most specific requirements.

    I found this site yesterday and I love it, thank you!

  20. I don’t think Dumbldore thought they didn’t know. Dumbldore isn’t dumb. He knows a young man is going to tell his best friends what’s going on.

    Snape: I agree with what someone said above. He loves Lily more than anything and he hated all 4 of them. So his hate for Black was huge. And if he thought Lupin was helping he would be furious. On a side note Snape is VERY flawed. He hasn’t got over his childhood

    Sirius: I Agree with what Emily said. Black is stuck at being 20 or so and Snape is stuck at being 16. In certain areas of course.

    Animaguis: This is very intresting. I think it may be easier than it seems. Maybe it just takes a VERY large amount of effort.

    Lupin not taking potion: COME ON! He thinks the closes thing he has to a friend (Harry) is about to die! What would you do? Think about it. He has found a way to get his best friend back and save the closest thing to family he has.

    Lupin in Gryffindor: Lupin in my favorite character in all the books. One thing I think everyone is not realizing is how brave it is to admit to your own faults! And Lupin in a werwolf. EVERYDAY he has to be brave just to walk outside. And he sticks by his friends. To be fair I am a bit basis for reasons stated above but I see a lot of bravery in Lupin.

    Peter in Gryffindor: Dumbldore says “We sort to soon”. And it is also about our choices. Peter could have been brave had he made different choices.

    On Hagrid saying “All Bad Wizards are for Slytherin”: Hagrid has a flair for the dramatic. I think he was just being over the top. And to be fair MOST baddies are from Slytherin.

  21. I was re-reading this chapter the other day and there’s something that I had never noticed before and that struck me as odd;
    Snape says, when he reveals himself to the others in the Shrieking Shack, that he went by Lupin’s office to give him the Wolfsbane and saw the Marauder’s Map open on the table. He says he saw where they were and followed.
    So… if he saw where Lupin, Sirius, Harry, Ron and Hermione were, how come he didn’t see Peter? We know he shows up on the map, even when he is in rat form, and yet Snape didn’t see him. Which would’ve been pretty useful seeing as their whole story is only believable if there’s proof that Peter’s not dead.
    Also, shouldn’t Snape have taken a glass of Wolfsbane with him for Lupin?? I mean Lupin was incredibly reckless not taking the potion but it would’ve been so easy for Snape to just take some with him lol!

  22. Ha! Lola, that hadn’t occurred to me, but you’re absolutely right, both about Pettigrew and about the Wolfsbane. Hmm… I guess maybe Snape was just so angry he wasn’t thinking straight…?

  23. I’m glad to have stumbled upon your sight, Josie, and have quite enjoyed it. I’m particularly glad that you raise the question of Pettigrew’s sorting into Gryffindor, as it’s a question that’s plagued me for some time. I’ve forced myself to consider my feelings on the matter, and here’s what I’ve come up with…

    It’s difficult to believe that even such a powerfully magical device as the sorting hat could see the character traits of an 11 year old child in absolute terms. A person’s character develops over time, time that tends to stretch on for quite a bit longer than 11 years. We must therefore conclude that the hat sees a potential for the development of ones character, as well as the persons desire.

    While it may seem silly to suggest that the hat saw a potential for great bravery in Pettigrew, I’d submit that it might have made a similar leap on Longbottom’s behalf. What differentiates Pettigrew from Longbottom, I believe, is their experience subsequent to their sorting.

    As much as we share Harry’s desire to see his father in the most idealized way, we know that Harry is quite the better man than James. While Harry is possessed of his father’s looks, wit, and cheek, he takes his kindness from his mother. (The very same kindness, it’s worth noting, that gave Professor Snape the lion-hearted courage that he’d eventually develop) It’s quite clear that James lacked that level of kindness in his first several years at Hogwarts. While Pettigrew was allowed to “tag along,” he was likely never treated very kindly by James and Sirius. Most of us guys had “that guy” in our school crowd. He was a guy that we’d protect from the other crowd, but only because he was our OWN dog to kick. I’m not proud of it, but it’s true.

    Of course, we know that Voldemort (even the young Tom Riddle) is frighteningly adept at identifying and exploiting the insecurities of others. Pettigrew, who likely suffered even at the hands of his “friends” would have been a veritable playground for Voldy’s strenghts.

    Sirius, in particular, is noted for underestimating the effects of his actions on others. Think Kreacher.

    I reckon I’m suggesting that Pettigrew might have made a better Gryffindor if James and Sirius had been better friends. Don’t forget what happens to Pettigrew when he feels compelled to repay a kindness that Harry once showed him. Maybe it’s fair to say the hat didn’t screw things up as much as James and Sirius did.

  24. @Lola and Josie Kearns: two theories: firstly, we never see any proof that Snape doesn’t bring Wolfsbane Potion with him, just that he’s too emotional to bring it up immediately. Shortly afterwards, he’s knocked out, and no-one looks in his pockets. Therefore, we can’t draw the definite conclusion that he didn’t bring some. Secondly: about Snape not seeing Pettigrew on the MM: Snape states that he saw Lupin “running along this corridor and out of sight” – the Shrieking Shack is not on the MM, and Peter had already gone off the edge of the map by the time Snape looked at it.

  25. I could well have said “Josie”, rather than your full name, since you wrote and continue to write the entire site. Much thanks for that by the way, especially with everything else that’s going on in your life.

  26. Darn, Rtozier beat me to it on why Snape didn’t see Pettigrew on the map. :) That must be the reason anyway. What I want to know is, why didn’t he (and Lupin for that matter) see time-travelling Harry and Hermione on it? Perhaps even the Marauders didn’t think to make the map register that kind of magic?

    So many issues to talk about in this chapter!

    @David Kenny, there aren’t necessarily the same number of students in each house in each year. Perhaps there were only four Gryffindor boys that year.

    I like Barty’s theory on why Pettigrew was in Gryffindor, especially the bit about Sirius being a person who doesn’t consider the effects of his behaviour towards people and Voldemort’s being able to twist people’s insecurities. I would think, seeing them in Snape’s memory (assuming that that is unbiased), and hearing the staff’s description of him in the pub, that Peter was less of a friend to James and Sirius and more a hanger on or groupie. Also, the hat takes people’s choices into consideration. There might have been any number of reasons for Peter to want to be in Gryffindor – family pressure for example.

    Simeysgirl – I don’t really agree with you on Gryffindor being the go-to house. Gryffindor has a very specific requirement of its students whereas Helga Hufflepuff said she’d ‘take the lot and treat them just the same.’

    As for Snape, his behaviour here is so very irrational it’s incredible to me. Harry has just as much reason to hate Sirius for supposedly killing Lily as Snape does, but while Harry is shouting and takes a while to believe the story, Snape refuses point blank to even listen to the story. In fact the very suggestion by Hermione that there might have been a mistake prompts him to look ‘deranged’, shouting at her to shut up. And when Sirius says that as long as Ron brings Scabbers up to the castle he’ll come quietly Snape decides to bypass that all together and go straight to the dementors. He has no desire to make sure he has the story straight, in fact actively avoids it. The bit that made me laugh this time around though was when he said to Harry, “You would have been well served if he’d killed you! You’d have died like your father, too arrogsnt to believe you might be mistaken in Black.” Er, hello kettle, you’re black. Lol. Snape is an interesting and entertaining character, but this scene is the height of his biased logic.

  27. we really shouldnt forget that Snape turned double agent to protect Harry, I think that this combined with his knowledge of Lupin’s imminant transformation, his hatred for Sirius and his disdain for Hermione could explain his actions in this chapter.
    Yes he probably shouldve listened to the full story but it is not fair to paint him as completly bad..

  28. @X. He’s not completely bad, but he is irrational in this scene.

  29. I agree with simeysgirl: I think it’s entirely possible that some people end up in a particular house because they don’t fit anywhere else.

  30. WHY DON’T THEY STUN PETTIGREW?!?!?!?!!? I never understood that. Or put the full body bind curse on him. It is totally ridiculous that they only tie him up when he can TURN INTO A TINY RODENT!!!!!!!!!
    Arghhhhhhh.
    Rant over.

  31. I think that Snape’s irrational reaction to Sirius is kind of understandable. Would you be thinking right if you were in the presence of someone you HATED in high school who was later accused of being responsible for the death of the only woman you ever loved? As much as I dislike Snape and wish he would have thought about the situation for a moment, I can understand why he was kind of irrational.

  32. I always thought that the only explanation for Lupin’s mistakes in this book is that he simply had mistaken the full moon day on his calendar. I mean, he not only forgets his potion, even after Snape had told him, but he also chains himself to Pettigrew and Ron! How can he forget about his condition and the full moon if he speaks about it all the time? Maybe he just thinks the full moon will rise the next night or something like that…

  33. If Snape had to “bring” the potion, that suggests Lupin didn’t have any in his office to take. They were both busy marking exam papers, so perhaps they didn’t realise that it was very late in the evening to have missed a dose. Snape couldn’t have known that Lupin would have already left his office by the time he brought the medicine. And Lupin couldn’t have known that Snape was on his way, or that the emergency would take so long to deal with.

    Did either of them see the time-travelling Harry and Hermione? Well, perhaps they did, and therefore knew that something extraordinary was happening. But perhaps they didn’t, because they were only looking at the section of the map that interested them.

    Why did neither of them alert Dumbledore or Flitwick for help before racing out to the emergency? I can only think that a whole lot of teachers had blocked their hearths from Floo-communication because they were all busy marking exams.

  34. GhV, good point about Snape bringing the potion. But I think Lupin has to have seen the time-traveling Harry and Hermione, for the exact reason you stated: he was looking at the section of the map that interested him. He’ll tell the kids later that he watched them on the map as they went down to visit Hagrid, and the time-traveling Harry and Hermione were right there at the same time.

  35. I think we all need to remember that everybody has moments of weakness. I know I have throughout my life. We’ve seen the likes of many Gryffindors acting cowardly, but in the end they do what’s right. Even Peter does, though it’s a very a small gesture considering all the bad he’s done to the world. And yes, of course you have to throw in the consideration of choices and the like. However, I don’t agree that any house is a “throwaway house,” not even Hufflepuff. It just doesn’t sit right with me. Every person has their own traits, and at least one of them has to stick out enough for the Sorting Hat, in case the student doesn’t attempt to make any choice. And the Sorting Hat probably even takes into consideration of a thought like, “those Gryffindors look like nice people” or “I wish I could be in Ravenclaw and show people I’m intelligent” or something along those lines. Take a look at the choice Harry made. He didn’t have very long to decide he didn’t like Slytherin, or that he liked Ron (though Ron was sorted after, but I think he probably had a feeling he’d be in Gryffindor anyway), or any of that. Peter could have met James, or Sirius, or Lupin, or all of them, and thought he’d like to be friends with them and presto the Sorting Hat gives him his wish. I think sometimes we can get caught up in the idea of always fitting to a trait of a particular house, even though it’s a main pre-requisite. And I know I somewhat endorsed the traits myself. I’m just saying, there’s a large amount of possibilities here that go into the Sorting. Anything can happen really, especially with eleven year-old boys and girls.

    As for the Animagus transformation, I’d also like to know just how that’s performed. I mean, it took them several years to figure out, assuming they all became friends as quickly as Harry, Ron, and Hermione did. I always assumed it took a lot of the class subjects and put them together. Like having to prepare by doing a special charm or something on every single bone in your body, and then later having to take a potion and recite a master spell to ignite the final process. Lupin made it seem like it wasn’t just figuring out how to do it, it was also just very time consuming and difficult.

    And Josie, I’m with you about Snape. Even after the end, I still never really liked him very much. I think what he did was brave, in the long run, but he’s also quite a terrible person anyway. I don’t think any of his reasons justify his behavior toward any of the students. I mean he favors *Malfoy* even knowing how scummy he is. He’s so obsessed with Slytherin, and is so biased, and cruel. He’s made it his own personal mission to get Harry and friends thrown out of Hogwarts, even knowing Dumbledore would probably never allow it. He’s also way too stuck in the past. And yes, that includes what happened with Lily. I mean, I get it, if the woman I loved died because of me, I’d be just as distraught. But he was also really horrible to her just for appearances in school, he was obsessed with the Dark Arts for a very long time. I believe everyone has good in them, and it’s obvious he does too. But that doesn’t mean they can just be excused for being such nasty people. I really liked a comment I read above about him. “Great character, bad person”. He was fun to read, but at the end of the day, I can’t like him.

  36. About the Sorting Hat… I think it’s just a matter of potential, in addition to the choice: Pettigrew is brave, but in his life he chooses to be a coward and uses his bravery for evil, because he thinks it’s easier, and this choise between what’s right and what’s easy is very important in Harry Potter’s series. The Sorting Hat simply saw his potential courage, he doesn’t know how people will use their qualities. It’s the same for Lupin, even if I think they’re too categorical with him: I mean, they say: “He’s a Griffindor, but he acts like a coward in more than one occasion”. But they forget Lupin is a human being (even if he’s a werewolf) and has his own weakness like everyone, due to all his problems, which are difficult to cope with; moreover he shows his courage many times, he’s a member of the Order of the Phoenix and doesn’t hesitate to help Harry whatever happens; in the end, he always admits his cowardice and tries to put things right, he retraces his steps, and that’s a great proof of courage for me. It’s true he makes mistakes, but I don’t feel like blaming him.
    About the Marauder’s Map… Time is a mistery, and maybe the Map isn’t able to show the ubiquity of Time-travellers, so maybe Harry and Hermione aren’t shown on the Map at all, that’s why no one can see them.
    About warning the staff… It is such an extraordinary event, Lupin is the only one who understood what is going on, maybe no one would give him time to explain, they would simply fuss, arrest Sirius and expell Harry, Ron and Hermione… Or Lupin would have to tell the story he tells the three of them, and he doesn’t want to; moreover let’s not forget he wants to kill Pettigrew, too (I think that’s another dark side of Lupin’s), and they wouldn’t let him do so.
    These are just my opinions, though :)

  37. I’m with Casey (and the others, there’s really too many names to be mentioned ;) when it comes to Snape. Yes, he was very brave and, when seeing the big picture, he was doing the right thing. But as a person? A teacher? A friend? Impossible to like him or come near him. He is a troubled character, stuck in feelings from the past so much that he isn’t capable of living in the now. I simply don’t think Snape sees much reason to be alive, except for maybe keeping Harry alive for Lily’s sake, and that’s not something he particularly likes… he’s just so lost in his own misery that he spreads it around like a sickness.
    I, personally, think it’s a bit silly with all the fans Snape’s character gained through the last books – everyone just seemed to forget what a horrible person he proved to be to almost everyone around him. I like Snape, as so many other here said, because he was such a complex and intriguing character, but just think of all the things he did during Harry’s years!

    (also, I think a reason for him being so hard on Harry is at least partly grounded on the fact that he knows Dumbledore would never ever expell Harry from Hogwarts. Snape can punish him as much as he wants without it actually coming to a serious end.)

  38. I just had one small thought on the becoming-Animagi-magic – it has to be wandless doesn’t it? Because Sirius transformed while in Azkaban and he wouldn’t have had his wand in there, right? I’m not sure if this really relates to anything already said here, but I was reading the ‘how it was done’ comments, with people mentioning potions, etc, and that just occured to me.
    Actually, speaking of wandless magic – that’s a very interesting subject isn’t it! I’d love to know more about it! I read somewhere recently that Snape was one of very few wizards who could perform it. Isn’t it in this chapter that he clicks his fingers and ropes fly up around Lupin? But does this mean that James, Sirius and Peter were all able to do it too when they were transforming?

  39. Whoa, so many debates about Snape! I LOVE Snape (yes I’ll admit I’m one of those deluded fanon girls) but there’s really no excuse for him in this chapter. There really isn’t. He’s completely irrational and not thinking clearly at all. Gives me a theory though. He’d already mentioned to Lupin that he hadn’t taken his potion. Do you think Snape would be afraid of Lupin at that point? Fear makes you irrational and he’s already hyped up and angry about what *he* thinks is going on which is:
    1. Lily’s official murderer standing right in front of him, if you think about it in that way.
    2. Sirius Black (said murderer) being the one he hates more than anyone in the world besides himself
    3. The man he hates more than anything throwing painful parts of the past back in his face.
    4. Everyone being completely calm and acting like he should be too, when he shouldn’t.
    But back to my point (apologies!) Lupin hasn’t taken the potion. Lupin, the man that turns into a werewolf that WILL tear everyone to bloody shreds and has already tried to do so to Snape…because of a prank pulled by Sirius. You don’t forget things like that and I’m sure that event came back to haunt him every now and then. If I knew all these facts I’d be scared out of my mind. Then you have 3 little brats in the middle of the fray that you have to protect (but are really being quite difficult about it considering the fact that he’s only trying to “save” them, hee). But that’s just me putting my thoughts out.

    I do want to point something out though, about what someone said about Sirius and Severus not growing up past a certain point. The thought pops into my head now and then. Severus’ childhood has been implied to be abusive in someways and we’re not exactly sure just how bad it was. Then he comes to Hogwarts where he’s constantly bullied. (and no matter what you guys think, keep in mind that in real life situations this is how scenarios like Columbine (sp?) start to form) He then becomes a DeathEater where it’s been shown that Voldemort… heh well Voldemort’s not exactly *nice* to his followers and crucio has been shown to cause insanity etc, etc. He ends up as the cause of death to the only friend he’s ever had and ever loved. Now *that* is emotionally and mentally scarring no matter what you say. Then you have Sirius’ situation which really needs no explanation.

    My question is… Has anyone ever helped them? Y’know mentally, emotionally? Any counseling or therapy? Does therapy even exist in Hp world? Does ANYONE is this book actually get the mental help that they need? It was extremely obvious that Sirius hadn’t really gotten out of Azkaban completely sane, and Severus has hints as well sometimes not of insanity but… well the man has some issues, IMO. Sorry it’s so long, I just wanted to get some of my thoughts out.

  40. I think that with Pettigrew being put into Gryffindor, he would have begged, I’m sure, to go there, wanting to be with James and Sirius! I somehow think he may have recognised that he’d do well to stick with them. He must have had a bit of bravery to dare being a double-agent under Dumbledore’s nose! but really, I suppose things passed between Peter and the hat that we’d never be able to gues!

  41. Brilliant foreshadowing a few paragraphs before Snape revealed himself under the Invisibility Cloak:
    “Snape?” said Black harshly… “What’s Snape got to do with it?”
    “Here’s here, Sirius,” said Lupin heavily. “He’s teaching here as well…”

    I never tire of reading these mind-blowing chapters in probably my favourite book of this series!

  42. Pettigrew is brave enough to cut off his own hand – I doubt that many people have the guts to do something like that, even if this act of bravery is born out of fear.

  43. It’s a very interesting point you make about Lupin displaying a distinct lack of Gryffindor courage by not informing Dumbledore that Sirius is an Animagi. This contrasts with Neville, who did own up to being the culprit responsible for the loss of the Gryffindor Common Room passwords. At least Lupin, unlike Pettigrew, does ultimately display his courage in the conflict with Voldemort. I guess he has physical courage but lacks certain moral courage in his personal relationships. Not surprising when you think of what he has had to go through his whole life

  44. I think the reason that Remus didn’t tell Dumbledore was that a small part of him, was still hoping that Sirius was innocent and that was holding him back and as he said he couldn’t stand Dumbledore’s disappointment if he told him.
    As with Snape, I think he used the Invisibility Cloak to sneak up on the lot in the Shack and stun and bind them before they could do anything but was surprised to find Harry and his friends, so he stopped to consider his options but got interested in the story Remus was telling them. The fact that Sirius said he deserved what he got was evidence (in his opinion) of Sirius’ guilt. The reason for his irrational behavior was that every single thing the Marauders did was playing in his mind and all the pent up emotions burst out of the boundaries. The proof was in the next chapter: ‘“Give me a reason,” he whispered. “Give me a reason to do it, and I swear I will.”’

  45. Snape pisses me off here too. But something else gets my goat as well: Snape was on his way to give the Wolfsbane Potion to Remus when saw the Map. He set the goblet down, saw the Map, turned and ran. Without picking it up!! I mean, I know he was distracted, but really! If he was that concerned about the risk Remus posed….
    I’m not blaming him. It was a bad night for everyone and a tough coincidence. But arrgh!

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